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	<title>Comments on: Flash! Anti-gay marriage campaigns cause psychological distress to gay people!</title>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
		<link>http://www.lesbiandad.net/2008/11/flash-anti-gay-marriage-campaigns-cause-psychological-distress-to-gay-people/comment-page-1/#comment-291177</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 03:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maggie ... Not only have I seen the Keith Oberman clip you referred to, a youtube version of it is on the main page of my blog and I am tempted to make it a permanent fixture across the headder of the page. He managed to express exactly what I have been feeling for the past month in that wrap-up and it was nice to hear it from a guy who is simply an ally, not a member of the LGBT 2nd class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maggie &#8230; Not only have I seen the Keith Oberman clip you referred to, a youtube version of it is on the main page of my blog and I am tempted to make it a permanent fixture across the headder of the page. He managed to express exactly what I have been feeling for the past month in that wrap-up and it was nice to hear it from a guy who is simply an ally, not a member of the LGBT 2nd class.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 06:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two more things, LD...

your response reminded me of the Keith Olbermann clip (which I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve all seen but here you go, nonetheless): http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/10/keith-olbermanns-prop-8-s_n_142862.html

AND...Looky Daddy hit the nail on the head with the title of one of his blog posts, &quot;Your Days are None the Better for What You Have Done&quot; http://www.lookydaddy.com/weblog/2008/11/your-days-are-none-the-better-for-what-you-have-done.html

Seriously.  SERIOUSLY!  

Ok I&#039;m done, I promise (with comments on this post.  Not the fight for equality.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two more things, LD&#8230;</p>
<p>your response reminded me of the Keith Olbermann clip (which I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve all seen but here you go, nonetheless): <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/10/keith-olbermanns-prop-8-s_n_142862.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/10/keith-olbermanns-prop-8-s_n_142862.html</a></p>
<p>AND&#8230;Looky Daddy hit the nail on the head with the title of one of his blog posts, &#8220;Your Days are None the Better for What You Have Done&#8221; <a href="http://www.lookydaddy.com/weblog/2008/11/your-days-are-none-the-better-for-what-you-have-done.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lookydaddy.com/weblog/2008/11/your-days-are-none-the-better-for-what-you-have-done.html</a></p>
<p>Seriously.  SERIOUSLY!  </p>
<p>Ok I&#8217;m done, I promise (with comments on this post.  Not the fight for equality.)</p>
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		<title>By: Lesbian Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lesbian Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah.  I got your chocolate chip cookies right here, bub.

But no, seriously.  Several people in our regional LGBT parents&#039; organization wrote our email list with wrenching emotional dilemmas regarding people who described themselves as friendly neighbors, whatever, and said &quot;It&#039;s not personal; it&#039;s not anything about you; I love you and your kids,&quot; right before saying they were going to vote their family&#039;s legal recognition and equal status right out from underneath them.  

What do you do with that?

Like &lt;b&gt;Maggie&lt;/b&gt; says, it&#039;s an eerie thing, co-existing with so many who -- in our experience -- really don&#039;t get the damage that decision does, the conscious decision to demote us from equal to unequal, in the eyes of the law. What that does to us, what that does to us as parents trying to protect our kids in the best possible way. I actually think a great many &lt;i&gt;really don&#039;t get it&lt;/i&gt;.  Perhaps, in a cyclical way, or tautologically, for the very reasons that they&#039;re willing to vote that way in the first place.  (I know I&#039;ll have to take another pass at this again sometime to make sense of this.)

Prop 8 Terrible Stress Disorder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah.  I got your chocolate chip cookies right here, bub.</p>
<p>But no, seriously.  Several people in our regional LGBT parents&#8217; organization wrote our email list with wrenching emotional dilemmas regarding people who described themselves as friendly neighbors, whatever, and said &#8220;It&#8217;s not personal; it&#8217;s not anything about you; I love you and your kids,&#8221; right before saying they were going to vote their family&#8217;s legal recognition and equal status right out from underneath them.  </p>
<p>What do you do with that?</p>
<p>Like <b>Maggie</b> says, it&#8217;s an eerie thing, co-existing with so many who &#8212; in our experience &#8212; really don&#8217;t get the damage that decision does, the conscious decision to demote us from equal to unequal, in the eyes of the law. What that does to us, what that does to us as parents trying to protect our kids in the best possible way. I actually think a great many <i>really don&#8217;t get it</i>.  Perhaps, in a cyclical way, or tautologically, for the very reasons that they&#8217;re willing to vote that way in the first place.  (I know I&#8217;ll have to take another pass at this again sometime to make sense of this.)</p>
<p>Prop 8 Terrible Stress Disorder.</p>
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		<title>By: JenRink</title>
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		<dc:creator>JenRink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, thank you, thank you!  It is so nice to finally have a diagnosis.  Even though I and everybody else I know has been physically, emotionally, and mentally traumatized by this over the last few months on some level I kind of felt like we were all just taking this a little too seriously.  My own blog has been like a case-study in PTSD for the  last month.  I&#039;m wondering now if I can sue my Mormon neighbor who tried to get me to take his chocolate-chip cookies and YesOnH8 bumper stickers for emotional distress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, thank you, thank you!  It is so nice to finally have a diagnosis.  Even though I and everybody else I know has been physically, emotionally, and mentally traumatized by this over the last few months on some level I kind of felt like we were all just taking this a little too seriously.  My own blog has been like a case-study in PTSD for the  last month.  I&#8217;m wondering now if I can sue my Mormon neighbor who tried to get me to take his chocolate-chip cookies and YesOnH8 bumper stickers for emotional distress.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I could come up with somethign more, um ... I mean less, um ... obvious I suppose, other than a great big old DUH!

I&#039;ll think it over and try to post a comment filled with wit and lacking in sarcasm later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could come up with somethign more, um &#8230; I mean less, um &#8230; obvious I suppose, other than a great big old DUH!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll think it over and try to post a comment filled with wit and lacking in sarcasm later.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m heterosexual, and I felt very directly affected by the passing of yes on 8.  My very best friend is gay, and so naturally, I want her to have the same rights that I do, and for her future family to have the same level of acceptance that I hope mine will.  Then there are the gay parent blogs that I frequent--their families are no less important than my future family or any family in this country.

But beyond having compassion for &amp; fighting/voting for the constitutional rights of my very dear friend &amp; blogosphere &quot;friends&quot;...I am offended and shocked that MY FELLOW AMERICANS voted FOR discrimination.  

Living in LA, I sometimes feel I&#039;m in a bubble of shiny happy liberal SoCal people (ok, the WESTSIDE, not Hollywood so much)...I feel safe, and felt confident that AT LEAST people here would vote against prop 8--how couldn&#039;t they?  Everyone here seems so accepting of the gay community.  But even LA county voted a yes on 8 majority, and the world I thought I knew seems much different now.  I look around my daily life and wonder, did my Starbucks barista vote yes?  What about that nice manager at my grocery store?  The subcontractors on my jobsite?  The funny security guard in the gatehouse of the neighborhood of one of my projects?  All of these people I encounter and exchange hellos and a gentle wave with daily...did they vote for discrimination against my friends?

So though heterosexual, I am offended by the actions of my neighbors.  I&#039;m shocked that at this day in age, a majority of this supposedly &quot;liberal&quot; state voted yes.  It just sickens me.  

(At least I was raised &quot;properly&quot; in Massachusetts, and THOSE &quot;Fellow Americans&quot; (and family members) haven&#039;t let us down!  Nor have they added same-sex marriage to the school curriculum.  Funny, I wonder what school the children of that Massachusetts couple on one of the &quot;yes on 8&quot; commercials go to...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m heterosexual, and I felt very directly affected by the passing of yes on 8.  My very best friend is gay, and so naturally, I want her to have the same rights that I do, and for her future family to have the same level of acceptance that I hope mine will.  Then there are the gay parent blogs that I frequent&#8211;their families are no less important than my future family or any family in this country.</p>
<p>But beyond having compassion for &amp; fighting/voting for the constitutional rights of my very dear friend &amp; blogosphere &#8220;friends&#8221;&#8230;I am offended and shocked that MY FELLOW AMERICANS voted FOR discrimination.  </p>
<p>Living in LA, I sometimes feel I&#8217;m in a bubble of shiny happy liberal SoCal people (ok, the WESTSIDE, not Hollywood so much)&#8230;I feel safe, and felt confident that AT LEAST people here would vote against prop 8&#8211;how couldn&#8217;t they?  Everyone here seems so accepting of the gay community.  But even LA county voted a yes on 8 majority, and the world I thought I knew seems much different now.  I look around my daily life and wonder, did my Starbucks barista vote yes?  What about that nice manager at my grocery store?  The subcontractors on my jobsite?  The funny security guard in the gatehouse of the neighborhood of one of my projects?  All of these people I encounter and exchange hellos and a gentle wave with daily&#8230;did they vote for discrimination against my friends?</p>
<p>So though heterosexual, I am offended by the actions of my neighbors.  I&#8217;m shocked that at this day in age, a majority of this supposedly &#8220;liberal&#8221; state voted yes.  It just sickens me.  </p>
<p>(At least I was raised &#8220;properly&#8221; in Massachusetts, and THOSE &#8220;Fellow Americans&#8221; (and family members) haven&#8217;t let us down!  Nor have they added same-sex marriage to the school curriculum.  Funny, I wonder what school the children of that Massachusetts couple on one of the &#8220;yes on 8&#8243; commercials go to&#8230;)</p>
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