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	<description>notes from the crossroads of mother and father</description>
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		<title>By: Just a moment or two at Lesbian Dad</title>
		<link>http://www.lesbiandad.net/2008/02/14/something-borrowed/#comment-253803</link>
		<dc:creator>Just a moment or two at Lesbian Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (of course!) it&#8217;s that way for the kids who grow up and leave us, too, as much as it is for we who watch them [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Listening at Lesbian Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Listening at Lesbian Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 10:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] when the beloved hugged her after the show, she and her husband said again what they&#8217;ve told her before: &#8220;It goes so [...]</description>
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		<title>By: virgotex</title>
		<link>http://www.lesbiandad.net/2008/02/14/something-borrowed/#comment-67354</link>
		<dc:creator>virgotex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 00:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LD, I know your time is at a premium, but I wager you would find Olds worth it.  She writes in  clear, sparse style but with amazing power.  Her poems are very photographic, the reader can't help but see them.  She has two children, grown now, and her work is full of poems about them. Having read your blog posts about your kids, I'd say you could appreciate them.  She writes about other subject matter as well, including some heartbreaking stuff about her own parents. She also made news two years ago for refusing an invitation to appear at the National Book festival: &lt;a href="http://www.thenation.com/doc/20051010/olds" rel="nofollow"&gt;Open Letter to Laura Bush&lt;/a&gt;

I've seen quite a few poets read during my time, including Adrienne Rich, and no one blew me away more than Olds.  I can still remember that reading and it was almost 20 years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LD, I know your time is at a premium, but I wager you would find Olds worth it.  She writes in  clear, sparse style but with amazing power.  Her poems are very photographic, the reader can&#8217;t help but see them.  She has two children, grown now, and her work is full of poems about them. Having read your blog posts about your kids, I&#8217;d say you could appreciate them.  She writes about other subject matter as well, including some heartbreaking stuff about her own parents. She also made news two years ago for refusing an invitation to appear at the National Book festival: <a href="http://www.thenation.com/doc/20051010/olds" rel="nofollow">Open Letter to Laura Bush</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen quite a few poets read during my time, including Adrienne Rich, and no one blew me away more than Olds.  I can still remember that reading and it was almost 20 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: LesbianDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>LesbianDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 19:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Virgo&lt;/b&gt;, that is beautiful.  Gorgeous.  Thank you so very much.  I have to admit to my heathenry and say that I don't really know many of her poems, outside of the ones that make it into the &lt;i&gt;New Yorker&lt;/i&gt;.  On a week I actually managed to read it.

Wow.  Touches at the center of one of my favorite reasons our second child went XY, rather than XX.

And &lt;b&gt;nyclel&lt;/b&gt;, welcome!  Yes indeedy.  I read his "On Marriage" at some friends' wedding, and when I got to the line "Give one another of your bread but eat not from the same loaf," my homie started snickering uncontrollably.  Then her other main gal (we weren't best &lt;i&gt;men&lt;/i&gt;, exactly) started to snicker.  Then the blushing bride.  It was a debacle.  Or a raging success, depending on your vantage point.  Loaf.  Who knew the innate humor value that word has?

By the way, did you read the &lt;a href="http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/books/2008/01/07/080107crbo_books_acocella?currentPage=all" rel="nofollow"&gt;recent review of his collected works&lt;/a&gt;, by Joan Acocella in the &lt;i&gt;New Yorker&lt;/i&gt;?  Compelling, and also slightly creepy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Virgo</b>, that is beautiful.  Gorgeous.  Thank you so very much.  I have to admit to my heathenry and say that I don&#8217;t really know many of her poems, outside of the ones that make it into the <i>New Yorker</i>.  On a week I actually managed to read it.</p>
<p>Wow.  Touches at the center of one of my favorite reasons our second child went XY, rather than XX.</p>
<p>And <b>nyclel</b>, welcome!  Yes indeedy.  I read his &#8220;On Marriage&#8221; at some friends&#8217; wedding, and when I got to the line &#8220;Give one another of your bread but eat not from the same loaf,&#8221; my homie started snickering uncontrollably.  Then her other main gal (we weren&#8217;t best <i>men</i>, exactly) started to snicker.  Then the blushing bride.  It was a debacle.  Or a raging success, depending on your vantage point.  Loaf.  Who knew the innate humor value that word has?</p>
<p>By the way, did you read the <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/books/2008/01/07/080107crbo_books_acocella?currentPage=all" rel="nofollow">recent review of his collected works</a>, by Joan Acocella in the <i>New Yorker</i>?  Compelling, and also slightly creepy.</p>
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		<title>By: nyclel</title>
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		<dc:creator>nyclel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 15:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, as a long time reader-from-afar... bravo! Your blog is fantastic.

Thought I would add to the discourse about children being borrowed. :) These poems all come from the words of Kahlil Gibran, who has great philosophies on many aspects of life. Beautiful imagery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, as a long time reader-from-afar&#8230; bravo! Your blog is fantastic.</p>
<p>Thought I would add to the discourse about children being borrowed. <img src='http://www.lesbiandad.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> These poems all come from the words of Kahlil Gibran, who has great philosophies on many aspects of life. Beautiful imagery.</p>
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		<title>By: virgotex</title>
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		<dc:creator>virgotex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 11:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya know......


when I sent post kudos to the Peanut earlier, on the occasion of his walking, I &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;almost&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; first included this poem in that post, then deleted it because I thought it was too much "Sunrise, Sunset," like it's not my place to make that comment on that occasion, you know? 

But since you're going there in this post, here's this poem. 

Of course, it would be by Sharon Olds. 

My Son the Man

Suddenly his shoulders get a lot wider,
the way Houdini would expand his body
while people were putting him in chains. It seems
no time since I would help him to put on his sleeper,
guide his calves into the gold interior,
zip him up and toss him up and
catch his weight. I cannot imagine him
no longer a child, and I know I must get ready,
get over my fear of men now my son
is going to be one. This was not
what I had in mind when he pressed up through me like a
sealed trunk through the ice of the Hudson,
snapped the padlock, unsnaked the chains,
and appeared in my arms. Now he looks at me
the way Houdini studied a box
to learn the way out, then smiled and let himself be manacled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya know&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>when I sent post kudos to the Peanut earlier, on the occasion of his walking, I <b><i>almost</i></b> first included this poem in that post, then deleted it because I thought it was too much &#8220;Sunrise, Sunset,&#8221; like it&#8217;s not my place to make that comment on that occasion, you know? </p>
<p>But since you&#8217;re going there in this post, here&#8217;s this poem. </p>
<p>Of course, it would be by Sharon Olds. </p>
<p>My Son the Man</p>
<p>Suddenly his shoulders get a lot wider,<br />
the way Houdini would expand his body<br />
while people were putting him in chains. It seems<br />
no time since I would help him to put on his sleeper,<br />
guide his calves into the gold interior,<br />
zip him up and toss him up and<br />
catch his weight. I cannot imagine him<br />
no longer a child, and I know I must get ready,<br />
get over my fear of men now my son<br />
is going to be one. This was not<br />
what I had in mind when he pressed up through me like a<br />
sealed trunk through the ice of the Hudson,<br />
snapped the padlock, unsnaked the chains,<br />
and appeared in my arms. Now he looks at me<br />
the way Houdini studied a box<br />
to learn the way out, then smiled and let himself be manacled.</p>
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		<title>By: Vikki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vikki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...I didn't see that previous post. Sometimes, I wish I had an easier time with the struggle of it all. I wish I could say that I always act with this knowledge that I am only a guide. The truth is, sometimes, I don't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;I didn&#8217;t see that previous post. Sometimes, I wish I had an easier time with the struggle of it all. I wish I could say that I always act with this knowledge that I am only a guide. The truth is, sometimes, I don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: LesbianDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>LesbianDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, &lt;b&gt;FemiKnit&lt;/b&gt;, did my sweetie pay &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt; to write that? This is a question she asks me frequently, most often after she finishes balancing the checkbook.  

Whether or not she did, thank you.  

And &lt;b&gt;Vikki&lt;/b&gt;.  Deja vu all over again!  I wrote that very same line from that very same song at one point in this very same post (at some point in the wee hours, but the line went as fast as it came: lots of convoluted encircling in those wee hours, like Poo and Piglet around that tree (the horrible Heffalumps!).  That poem -- as rendered by Sweet Honey -- is my single most reliable and inspirational parental guide.  At the bottom of &lt;a href="http://lesbiandad.net/2006/12/23/your-children-are-not-your-children/" rel="nofollow"&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt;, I stuck both the poem and a link to the Sweet Honey song.  Which I have to make even more immediately accessible by sticking here, too: &lt;a href="http://www.ritualwell.org/lifecycles/babieschildren/babynamingsimchatbat/sitefolder.2005-06-07.5117027380/file.2005-06-30.7919514616" target="_blank"&gt;On Children&lt;/a&gt; courtesy Ritualwell.org (Music by Ysaye M. Barnwell, Â© 1980 Barnwell's Notes Publishing; recorded by Sweet Honey In The RockÂ®).

Thank you for sharing Miguel's take on it, which opens up the heart a bit more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, <b>FemiKnit</b>, did my sweetie pay <i>you</i> to write that? This is a question she asks me frequently, most often after she finishes balancing the checkbook.  </p>
<p>Whether or not she did, thank you.  </p>
<p>And <b>Vikki</b>.  Deja vu all over again!  I wrote that very same line from that very same song at one point in this very same post (at some point in the wee hours, but the line went as fast as it came: lots of convoluted encircling in those wee hours, like Poo and Piglet around that tree (the horrible Heffalumps!).  That poem &#8212; as rendered by Sweet Honey &#8212; is my single most reliable and inspirational parental guide.  At the bottom of <a href="http://lesbiandad.net/2006/12/23/your-children-are-not-your-children/" rel="nofollow">this post</a>, I stuck both the poem and a link to the Sweet Honey song.  Which I have to make even more immediately accessible by sticking here, too: <a href="http://www.ritualwell.org/lifecycles/babieschildren/babynamingsimchatbat/sitefolder.2005-06-07.5117027380/file.2005-06-30.7919514616" target="_blank">On Children</a> courtesy Ritualwell.org (Music by Ysaye M. Barnwell, Â© 1980 Barnwell&#8217;s Notes Publishing; recorded by Sweet Honey In The RockÂ®).</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing Miguel&#8217;s take on it, which opens up the heart a bit more.</p>
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		<title>By: Vikki</title>
		<link>http://www.lesbiandad.net/2008/02/14/something-borrowed/#comment-66808</link>
		<dc:creator>Vikki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My son is 6 and has been separating himself slowly from us since his birthday last summer. It is the small separations that break my heart. The look in his eyes when he says goodbye to me at school...the look that says, "No hug today mom, the big boys are watching." With this very thought in mind, I played Sweet Honey in the Rock's song, "On Children", for him and we sang together..."your children/are not your children/they are the sons and daughters of life's longing for itself". For him, it was a song about becoming your own person...for me, it is a song about living with this very idea that our children are exactly as you say - on loan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My son is 6 and has been separating himself slowly from us since his birthday last summer. It is the small separations that break my heart. The look in his eyes when he says goodbye to me at school&#8230;the look that says, &#8220;No hug today mom, the big boys are watching.&#8221; With this very thought in mind, I played Sweet Honey in the Rock&#8217;s song, &#8220;On Children&#8221;, for him and we sang together&#8230;&#8221;your children/are not your children/they are the sons and daughters of life&#8217;s longing for itself&#8221;. For him, it was a song about becoming your own person&#8230;for me, it is a song about living with this very idea that our children are exactly as you say - on loan.</p>
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		<title>By: FemiKnitMafia</title>
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		<dc:creator>FemiKnitMafia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Between this post and the Something Old post, I'm just in awe.  Could someone please pay you to write this stuff?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Between this post and the Something Old post, I&#8217;m just in awe.  Could someone please pay you to write this stuff?</p>
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