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	<description>notes from the crossroads of mother and father</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: LesbianDad</title>
		<link>http://www.lesbiandad.net/2008/01/15/pee-happens/#comment-62267</link>
		<dc:creator>LesbianDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O my heavens, that is just too fabulous.  "Feminine/ masculine pickâ€™n'mix" is very likely to be what I'm going to be scratching in, next to [M] [F] checkboxes on forms.  That or xylophone, per &lt;a href="http://lesbiandad.net/2008/01/02/new-years-clearance/#comment-60501" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;b&gt;smurf's&lt;/b&gt; suggestion&lt;/a&gt;.

I will see what I can work up in the way of a spy kit diagram.  Meanwhile, I can tell you that a barrel o' monkeys' worth of fun can be had with the magnet alone, which just happens to be the self-same one at the business end of my Baba's Little Helper v.2.0, pictured in action &lt;a href="http://lesbiandad.net/2007/08/28/babas-food-delivery-retrieval-system/#comment-36827" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O my heavens, that is just too fabulous.  &#8220;Feminine/ masculine pickâ€™n&#8217;mix&#8221; is very likely to be what I&#8217;m going to be scratching in, next to [M] [F] checkboxes on forms.  That or xylophone, per <a href="http://lesbiandad.net/2008/01/02/new-years-clearance/#comment-60501" rel="nofollow"><b>smurf&#8217;s</b> suggestion</a>.</p>
<p>I will see what I can work up in the way of a spy kit diagram.  Meanwhile, I can tell you that a barrel o&#8217; monkeys&#8217; worth of fun can be had with the magnet alone, which just happens to be the self-same one at the business end of my Baba&#8217;s Little Helper v.2.0, pictured in action <a href="http://lesbiandad.net/2007/08/28/babas-food-delivery-retrieval-system/#comment-36827" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Chumpy</title>
		<link>http://www.lesbiandad.net/2008/01/15/pee-happens/#comment-62262</link>
		<dc:creator>Chumpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll keep a mental record, for when 1-4 are a bit older of the $10-$20 hardware store lucky dip as well as the spy kit (tempting though it is to practice now...). It's frustrating at times still being in the 'happier' mache/ cardboard construction ( or in 2's case everything you make I'll destroy haha) and inside den phase.

Any chance of some kind of a spy kit diagram just in case we accidentally make a rocket launcher or strange torture device from the constituent parts you describe? I was always such an attentive student when my Dad was inventing things, changing the car tyres, fixing the lawnmower etc etc. 

Why saddle oneself with the yoke of improvement when, by breaking the gender steroetype one is freed to enjoy the feminine/ masculine pick'n'mix?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll keep a mental record, for when 1-4 are a bit older of the $10-$20 hardware store lucky dip as well as the spy kit (tempting though it is to practice now&#8230;). It&#8217;s frustrating at times still being in the &#8216;happier&#8217; mache/ cardboard construction ( or in 2&#8217;s case everything you make I&#8217;ll destroy haha) and inside den phase.</p>
<p>Any chance of some kind of a spy kit diagram just in case we accidentally make a rocket launcher or strange torture device from the constituent parts you describe? I was always such an attentive student when my Dad was inventing things, changing the car tyres, fixing the lawnmower etc etc. </p>
<p>Why saddle oneself with the yoke of improvement when, by breaking the gender steroetype one is freed to enjoy the feminine/ masculine pick&#8217;n'mix?</p>
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		<title>By: Chicory</title>
		<link>http://www.lesbiandad.net/2008/01/15/pee-happens/#comment-62253</link>
		<dc:creator>Chicory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, your li'l monkey is a bit older than Sassa, so perhaps she just saved up all her ambivalence and is now convinced that this is the right course of action.  And thus won't turn back when the going gets hard.  I'm sure that's it.  

I'll bet you're loving the toys from the hardware store column that's been making a regular appearance at Mombian.  You should write up the spy kit and see if Dana'll put it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, your li&#8217;l monkey is a bit older than Sassa, so perhaps she just saved up all her ambivalence and is now convinced that this is the right course of action.  And thus won&#8217;t turn back when the going gets hard.  I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s it.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bet you&#8217;re loving the toys from the hardware store column that&#8217;s been making a regular appearance at Mombian.  You should write up the spy kit and see if Dana&#8217;ll put it up!</p>
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		<title>By: MaMaMia</title>
		<link>http://www.lesbiandad.net/2008/01/15/pee-happens/#comment-62251</link>
		<dc:creator>MaMaMia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhh, Vikki, you remind me of my times walking into pick up Max and pre-judging how the day went by the number of plastic bags I spotted hanging in his cubby.  

I must say, with no experience potty training girls, it seems logistically simpler with boys--having the whole aim-and-shoot advantage.  Max seemed to think it was pretty neat to melt a hole in the snow during an emergency stop on a road trip this winter. . . See what you have to look forward to?  OK--minus the snow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh, Vikki, you remind me of my times walking into pick up Max and pre-judging how the day went by the number of plastic bags I spotted hanging in his cubby.  </p>
<p>I must say, with no experience potty training girls, it seems logistically simpler with boys&#8211;having the whole aim-and-shoot advantage.  Max seemed to think it was pretty neat to melt a hole in the snow during an emergency stop on a road trip this winter. . . See what you have to look forward to?  OK&#8211;minus the snow!</p>
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		<title>By: Vikki</title>
		<link>http://www.lesbiandad.net/2008/01/15/pee-happens/#comment-62248</link>
		<dc:creator>Vikki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toilet training nearly killed me this time. My daughter was reliable and then she wasn't. She was proud and motivated and then ambivalent. I made two mistakes this time around...1)I believed everyone who said that girls are easier than boys to potty train (for the record, my son was MUCH easier and was done - night and all - at 2 1/2) and 2)I forgot that potty training is not a linear process - there are fits and starts. 

Over Christmas, I felt like we were finally, officially done with it all. Then, school started again and she and a little boyfriend of hers decided to have a literal pissing contest (a joyful one) each day which resulted in numerous bags of wet clothes coming home. Thankfully, the teacher put an end to that somehow and things are back to, well, I should stop now or jinx it all.

You are in the home stretch, my friend!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toilet training nearly killed me this time. My daughter was reliable and then she wasn&#8217;t. She was proud and motivated and then ambivalent. I made two mistakes this time around&#8230;1)I believed everyone who said that girls are easier than boys to potty train (for the record, my son was MUCH easier and was done - night and all - at 2 1/2) and 2)I forgot that potty training is not a linear process - there are fits and starts. </p>
<p>Over Christmas, I felt like we were finally, officially done with it all. Then, school started again and she and a little boyfriend of hers decided to have a literal pissing contest (a joyful one) each day which resulted in numerous bags of wet clothes coming home. Thankfully, the teacher put an end to that somehow and things are back to, well, I should stop now or jinx it all.</p>
<p>You are in the home stretch, my friend!</p>
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		<title>By: LesbianDad</title>
		<link>http://www.lesbiandad.net/2008/01/15/pee-happens/#comment-62243</link>
		<dc:creator>LesbianDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooo.  That's a tough one.  Before we even had kids, some of my fondest dreams were that I would stroll around the hardware store with -- Junior, some random generic kid, not sure I even knew whether Junior was she or he -- teaching her/him about, well, stuff.  Fixing things, making things.  Proper use of tools.  Whatever it was.  But there was something about a hardware store trip.  

One variant on the dreaming was that, on special occasions, we'd go there with $10 or even $20 (USD), and we'd see what fun adventuresome things we could purchase and come home and make.  One of my favorite gifts I gave my nephews was a "spy kit," all of which was purchased at the hardware store: a small flashlight and a very strong magnet at the end of one of those key chain thingies that attach to a belt and have a long, spring-loaded chain on 'em.  The kind that the janitor wore in my Elementary School.  They were befuddled for the first 12 hours, then each of them played with theirs for months, if not years.  After several years and trans-Atlantic moves, my younger nephew -- the surviving one -- still knows where his is.

Part of taking them with, to my mind, has to do with the lesbian dad being an improvement on aspects of the stereotypical, regular one, who has typically been more preoccupied with things than with people.  Meaning that, for the lesbian dad, some of the absolute necessities of masculinity are redefined.

Now, a trip to a cafe to read and write.  So far, that's a solo jaunt.  But hope springs eternal.  (Dreamy image: the both of 'em sipping their herbal teas, lost in their books or their writing.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooo.  That&#8217;s a tough one.  Before we even had kids, some of my fondest dreams were that I would stroll around the hardware store with &#8212; Junior, some random generic kid, not sure I even knew whether Junior was she or he &#8212; teaching her/him about, well, stuff.  Fixing things, making things.  Proper use of tools.  Whatever it was.  But there was something about a hardware store trip.  </p>
<p>One variant on the dreaming was that, on special occasions, we&#8217;d go there with $10 or even $20 (USD), and we&#8217;d see what fun adventuresome things we could purchase and come home and make.  One of my favorite gifts I gave my nephews was a &#8220;spy kit,&#8221; all of which was purchased at the hardware store: a small flashlight and a very strong magnet at the end of one of those key chain thingies that attach to a belt and have a long, spring-loaded chain on &#8216;em.  The kind that the janitor wore in my Elementary School.  They were befuddled for the first 12 hours, then each of them played with theirs for months, if not years.  After several years and trans-Atlantic moves, my younger nephew &#8212; the surviving one &#8212; still knows where his is.</p>
<p>Part of taking them with, to my mind, has to do with the lesbian dad being an improvement on aspects of the stereotypical, regular one, who has typically been more preoccupied with things than with people.  Meaning that, for the lesbian dad, some of the absolute necessities of masculinity are redefined.</p>
<p>Now, a trip to a cafe to read and write.  So far, that&#8217;s a solo jaunt.  But hope springs eternal.  (Dreamy image: the both of &#8216;em sipping their herbal teas, lost in their books or their writing.)</p>
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		<title>By: Chumpy</title>
		<link>http://www.lesbiandad.net/2008/01/15/pee-happens/#comment-62234</link>
		<dc:creator>Chumpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah the who, how and why of public toilets- I've often wondered. 

Mmh still doing grown up things with children in tow. Are you ever tempted to go the whole hog with the mannish lesbian thing and make a play for hardware shopping to be something that is, of course, an absolute necessity, impossible to do with children??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah the who, how and why of public toilets- I&#8217;ve often wondered. </p>
<p>Mmh still doing grown up things with children in tow. Are you ever tempted to go the whole hog with the mannish lesbian thing and make a play for hardware shopping to be something that is, of course, an absolute necessity, impossible to do with children??</p>
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		<title>By: ullalauridsen</title>
		<link>http://www.lesbiandad.net/2008/01/15/pee-happens/#comment-62197</link>
		<dc:creator>ullalauridsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, well, at least she peed on something that was yours. I have had a child pee, with absolutely no warning, standing on a rug in IKEA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, well, at least she peed on something that was yours. I have had a child pee, with absolutely no warning, standing on a rug in IKEA.</p>
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		<title>By: lulazoid</title>
		<link>http://www.lesbiandad.net/2008/01/15/pee-happens/#comment-62148</link>
		<dc:creator>lulazoid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 02:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I laughed so hard when I read this. I have public bathroom phobia. And... in the land of Europe public bathrooms are also few and far between. The little one has become an expert at al fresco peeing, although we had a hysterical time in France, when the police pulled up as the little one was peeing. I suppute that they thought that we were trying to gain access to an industrial zone. 

It's even better when they pee in the car and the car chair is completely wasted. We had to fashion one on holiday from a blanket and the car chair frame after such an incident. 

I'm glad to report that we are day-dry since April 2007, but extremely night-wet... We've been told that this may last until she is six. Ack. More diapers. So much for our ecological footprint, eh. 

As for the hardware store: it's my SO's first stop when she goes home. She bemoans the absence of Home Depot in Europe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I laughed so hard when I read this. I have public bathroom phobia. And&#8230; in the land of Europe public bathrooms are also few and far between. The little one has become an expert at al fresco peeing, although we had a hysterical time in France, when the police pulled up as the little one was peeing. I suppute that they thought that we were trying to gain access to an industrial zone. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s even better when they pee in the car and the car chair is completely wasted. We had to fashion one on holiday from a blanket and the car chair frame after such an incident. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad to report that we are day-dry since April 2007, but extremely night-wet&#8230; We&#8217;ve been told that this may last until she is six. Ack. More diapers. So much for our ecological footprint, eh. </p>
<p>As for the hardware store: it&#8217;s my SO&#8217;s first stop when she goes home. She bemoans the absence of Home Depot in Europe.</p>
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		<title>By: LesbianDad</title>
		<link>http://www.lesbiandad.net/2008/01/15/pee-happens/#comment-62112</link>
		<dc:creator>LesbianDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;AnotherOther&lt;/b&gt;: yeah, me or &lt;a href="http://www.lookydaddy.com/weblog/2007/07/the-mom-is-gone.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Looky, Daddy!&lt;/a&gt;

And sister &lt;b&gt;Chicory&lt;/b&gt;: say it ain't so!  Three times!  Recidivism?  I can't bear the thought of it.  Thanks for the diaper tip.  Her T-shirt didn't quite provide the protective barrier I'd hoped for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>AnotherOther</b>: yeah, me or <a href="http://www.lookydaddy.com/weblog/2007/07/the-mom-is-gone.html" rel="nofollow">Looky, Daddy!</a></p>
<p>And sister <b>Chicory</b>: say it ain&#8217;t so!  Three times!  Recidivism?  I can&#8217;t bear the thought of it.  Thanks for the diaper tip.  Her T-shirt didn&#8217;t quite provide the protective barrier I&#8217;d hoped for.</p>
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