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	<title>Comments on: A Baba&#8217;s Day Proclamation</title>
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	<description>notes from the crossroads of mother and father</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The trouble with Mother&#8217;s Day (or, Why I&#8217;m glad to be a Lesbian Dad) at LesbianDad</title>
		<link>http://www.lesbiandad.net/2007/06/15/a-babas-day-proclamation/#comment-184655</link>
		<dc:creator>The trouble with Mother&#8217;s Day (or, Why I&#8217;m glad to be a Lesbian Dad) at LesbianDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In our family, we get around the musical chairs-like struggle for that one seat, the throne of Mama on Mother&#8217;s day, by turning around and hi-jacking Papa and Father&#8217;s Day for my exclusive use. It works for us for many reasons, which I have noted in previous Father&#8217;s Day-themed posts (here, in 2006, and here, in 2007). Clearly it also works for us because I have spent decades upon decades, really my whole life, laying claim to one aspect or another of what&#8217;s commonly considered the exclusive domain of men (clothes, gals, what have you). So what&#8217;s a commercialized, national holiday, after I&#8217;ve poached so much? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In our family, we get around the musical chairs-like struggle for that one seat, the throne of Mama on Mother&#8217;s day, by turning around and hi-jacking Papa and Father&#8217;s Day for my exclusive use. It works for us for many reasons, which I have noted in previous Father&#8217;s Day-themed posts (here, in 2006, and here, in 2007). Clearly it also works for us because I have spent decades upon decades, really my whole life, laying claim to one aspect or another of what&#8217;s commonly considered the exclusive domain of men (clothes, gals, what have you). So what&#8217;s a commercialized, national holiday, after I&#8217;ve poached so much? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: wen521</title>
		<link>http://www.lesbiandad.net/2007/06/15/a-babas-day-proclamation/#comment-25124</link>
		<dc:creator>wen521</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most excellent. I totally agree that there are parents who aren't traditionally "mother" or "father" but some fantastic personal blend thereof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most excellent. I totally agree that there are parents who aren&#8217;t traditionally &#8220;mother&#8221; or &#8220;father&#8221; but some fantastic personal blend thereof.</p>
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		<title>By: the KIABIL</title>
		<link>http://www.lesbiandad.net/2007/06/15/a-babas-day-proclamation/#comment-24836</link>
		<dc:creator>the KIABIL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't stop thinking about Snail's comment (thank you, Snail, congrats on your graduation and valedictorianship).  I know very few people who felt normal during high school.  Those years are full of discovery about who you are and, it seems to me, there is an inherent dichotomy between establishing yourself as an individual about to become an adult and wanting desperately to belong.  There's real tension in that struggle and it can be very painful to go through that birthing of an adult from the kid that was.  I certainly felt like a freak, and most people I've talked to felt the same way.

Most of us, I think, end up finding that, freakish though we felt, there's a place for us and people like us and other people who can see us for who we really are and respect it. Of course, some don't find that, which sucks, I wish our society has a more core ethic of differences being OK.

What's f&#38;#*ing criminal is that whole groups of people are told consistently loudly and clearly that their feelings and who they are are not OK and not respected. We are all told with everything from subliminal messages to overt violence that it's not OK to be a teenager (or adult) who doesn't conform to some phony irrelevant preconceptions about who you can love and about gender roles.  Our teenagers pay the price for these lies.  They pay the price if they're straight. They pay the price if they're butchy men or femmey women. But they particularly pay the price if they're gay or lesbian or in some form outside of our pathetic little 'models'.  

I'm glad snail has this blog to read. I'm glad my kids get to see and hang out with you, LD, every day. And I know that your gentle example and eloquent writing will help them and many others know the truth. That they get to be whoever they want to be, whoever they really are, and that that's a great part of the fun.

Happy Baba's day, it was fun to be able to share a piece of it with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t stop thinking about Snail&#8217;s comment (thank you, Snail, congrats on your graduation and valedictorianship).  I know very few people who felt normal during high school.  Those years are full of discovery about who you are and, it seems to me, there is an inherent dichotomy between establishing yourself as an individual about to become an adult and wanting desperately to belong.  There&#8217;s real tension in that struggle and it can be very painful to go through that birthing of an adult from the kid that was.  I certainly felt like a freak, and most people I&#8217;ve talked to felt the same way.</p>
<p>Most of us, I think, end up finding that, freakish though we felt, there&#8217;s a place for us and people like us and other people who can see us for who we really are and respect it. Of course, some don&#8217;t find that, which sucks, I wish our society has a more core ethic of differences being OK.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s f&amp;#*ing criminal is that whole groups of people are told consistently loudly and clearly that their feelings and who they are are not OK and not respected. We are all told with everything from subliminal messages to overt violence that it&#8217;s not OK to be a teenager (or adult) who doesn&#8217;t conform to some phony irrelevant preconceptions about who you can love and about gender roles.  Our teenagers pay the price for these lies.  They pay the price if they&#8217;re straight. They pay the price if they&#8217;re butchy men or femmey women. But they particularly pay the price if they&#8217;re gay or lesbian or in some form outside of our pathetic little &#8216;models&#8217;.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad snail has this blog to read. I&#8217;m glad my kids get to see and hang out with you, LD, every day. And I know that your gentle example and eloquent writing will help them and many others know the truth. That they get to be whoever they want to be, whoever they really are, and that that&#8217;s a great part of the fun.</p>
<p>Happy Baba&#8217;s day, it was fun to be able to share a piece of it with you.</p>
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		<title>By: giddings</title>
		<link>http://www.lesbiandad.net/2007/06/15/a-babas-day-proclamation/#comment-24712</link>
		<dc:creator>giddings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 14:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy Baba's day, LD... Looks like your best Baba's day gift was from snail. Thank you for being here for all of us...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy Baba&#8217;s day, LD&#8230; Looks like your best Baba&#8217;s day gift was from snail. Thank you for being here for all of us&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LesbianDad</title>
		<link>http://www.lesbiandad.net/2007/06/15/a-babas-day-proclamation/#comment-24630</link>
		<dc:creator>LesbianDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 20:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snail, that made my Baba's Day.  Actually, it just made the web hosting fees for the past year and a half, and the countless late nights falling asleep at the keyboard worthwhile. You are humble, too: I just read where you were valedictorian at that high school graduation.  Gives me not just hope, but confidence, about the future.  Congratulations on the milestone (lordy was &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; glad to be rid of high school!), and thank you, very much, for sharing what you have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snail, that made my Baba&#8217;s Day.  Actually, it just made the web hosting fees for the past year and a half, and the countless late nights falling asleep at the keyboard worthwhile. You are humble, too: I just read where you were valedictorian at that high school graduation.  Gives me not just hope, but confidence, about the future.  Congratulations on the milestone (lordy was <i>I</i> glad to be rid of high school!), and thank you, very much, for sharing what you have.</p>
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		<title>By: snail</title>
		<link>http://www.lesbiandad.net/2007/06/15/a-babas-day-proclamation/#comment-24614</link>
		<dc:creator>snail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 18:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been lurking for a while, am poking my head out for just a moment to say Happy Baba's Day! If it's not too strange. I shall explain myself somewhat to take the edge off internet anonymity:

I'm a teenager, *was* a high school student until yesterday's graduation, and before I came out this past year was trawling the blogosphere desperately, looking for My Kind and perhaps some assurance that lesbianism wouldn't consign me to some dreadful lonely life with cats and blaming the patriarchy and such. Not that I dislike cats, and I do sort of blame the patriarchy. All the more reason for my concern. 

But anyway, found your blog, and it was so interesting, and so funny, and so eloquent, and so *normal*--god, I just almost cried. Normalcy. Imagine that. 

I feel as though I'm awkwardly peeking into your family sometimes, and I hope you don't mind, it's just...so lovely. So happy, so positive, so healthy and normal. Gives me a lot of hope, and a lot of courage, and a sense of community that I just don't have 'round these parts. 

Thank you, so much, for blogging; and again, Happy Baba's Day. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been lurking for a while, am poking my head out for just a moment to say Happy Baba&#8217;s Day! If it&#8217;s not too strange. I shall explain myself somewhat to take the edge off internet anonymity:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a teenager, *was* a high school student until yesterday&#8217;s graduation, and before I came out this past year was trawling the blogosphere desperately, looking for My Kind and perhaps some assurance that lesbianism wouldn&#8217;t consign me to some dreadful lonely life with cats and blaming the patriarchy and such. Not that I dislike cats, and I do sort of blame the patriarchy. All the more reason for my concern. </p>
<p>But anyway, found your blog, and it was so interesting, and so funny, and so eloquent, and so *normal*&#8211;god, I just almost cried. Normalcy. Imagine that. </p>
<p>I feel as though I&#8217;m awkwardly peeking into your family sometimes, and I hope you don&#8217;t mind, it&#8217;s just&#8230;so lovely. So happy, so positive, so healthy and normal. Gives me a lot of hope, and a lot of courage, and a sense of community that I just don&#8217;t have &#8217;round these parts. </p>
<p>Thank you, so much, for blogging; and again, Happy Baba&#8217;s Day.</p>
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		<title>By: LesbianDad</title>
		<link>http://www.lesbiandad.net/2007/06/15/a-babas-day-proclamation/#comment-24508</link>
		<dc:creator>LesbianDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 23:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And you, and you, and you!  (Back atcha, Rreagler, the O.B.!  And Ima Ayelet, we've already got the sparkling apple cider a-chillin'!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you, and you, and you!  (Back atcha, Rreagler, the O.B.!  And Ima Ayelet, we&#8217;ve already got the sparkling apple cider a-chillin&#8217;!)</p>
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		<title>By: IrreverendAmy</title>
		<link>http://www.lesbiandad.net/2007/06/15/a-babas-day-proclamation/#comment-24493</link>
		<dc:creator>IrreverendAmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 20:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And a very happy Baba's Day to you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And a very happy Baba&#8217;s Day to you!</p>
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		<title>By: ayelet</title>
		<link>http://www.lesbiandad.net/2007/06/15/a-babas-day-proclamation/#comment-24491</link>
		<dc:creator>ayelet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 20:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy Baba's day - let's have a belated celebration in two weeks time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy Baba&#8217;s day - let&#8217;s have a belated celebration in two weeks time!</p>
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		<title>By: rreagler</title>
		<link>http://www.lesbiandad.net/2007/06/15/a-babas-day-proclamation/#comment-24489</link>
		<dc:creator>rreagler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 19:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woo hoooooo!  Have a great weekend, fellow Baba! xo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woo hoooooo!  Have a great weekend, fellow Baba! xo</p>
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