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	<description>notes from the crossroads of mother and father</description>
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		<title>By: rosiewolf</title>
		<link>http://www.lesbiandad.net/2007/03/sandbox-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-7778</link>
		<dc:creator>rosiewolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 03:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a stunning piece of writing.  Just stunning.

Some truths are harder to tell than others.  My great nephew was abandoned as an infant by his mother and raised by his paternal grandparents, my brother and his wife and his father.  We lied.  We lied like dogs.  As far as I know, we are still lying.  Great nephew is in his teens now, happy and well-adjusted.  He has a relationship with his mother of sorts and his maternal grandparents.  I honestly don&#039;t know what I would say to him if he asked me about this now. I&#039;m just not sure there is an age that is appropriate to tell someone, &quot;Your mother locked you in a closet and walked away.&quot; without inflicting damage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a stunning piece of writing.  Just stunning.</p>
<p>Some truths are harder to tell than others.  My great nephew was abandoned as an infant by his mother and raised by his paternal grandparents, my brother and his wife and his father.  We lied.  We lied like dogs.  As far as I know, we are still lying.  Great nephew is in his teens now, happy and well-adjusted.  He has a relationship with his mother of sorts and his maternal grandparents.  I honestly don&#8217;t know what I would say to him if he asked me about this now. I&#8217;m just not sure there is an age that is appropriate to tell someone, &#8220;Your mother locked you in a closet and walked away.&#8221; without inflicting damage.</p>
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		<title>By: ayelet</title>
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		<dc:creator>ayelet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 13:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would tell the truth (and saying this I realize I&#039;ve not been completely truthful to my own these past few months - tyring to sheild both them and their ill grandmother from pain - and not really succeeding.)
I would tell the truth for two reasons:
The first was so eloquently put by the KIABIL I have not a word to add.
And the second is that in this specific case, I think that in the long term the truth of &quot;this too shall pass&quot; is one that provides much more comfort than pain. Even if you reassured him that the good feelings make the bad ones go away - what would happen when, in two days or three months or that very evening - the bad feelings came again? Would he feel guilty, or weak, or wrong because he couldn&#039;t make the bad feelings disappear? Telling him about the constancy of change will, I think, make him feel less resposible for the bad, and ultimately more able to embrace the good (and deal with all those times and feelings which are both bad and good.)
The truth that this too shall pass is ultimately what makes life not only liveable, but joyful. And that it something it is never too early too teach - in one form or another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would tell the truth (and saying this I realize I&#8217;ve not been completely truthful to my own these past few months &#8211; tyring to sheild both them and their ill grandmother from pain &#8211; and not really succeeding.)<br />
I would tell the truth for two reasons:<br />
The first was so eloquently put by the KIABIL I have not a word to add.<br />
And the second is that in this specific case, I think that in the long term the truth of &#8220;this too shall pass&#8221; is one that provides much more comfort than pain. Even if you reassured him that the good feelings make the bad ones go away &#8211; what would happen when, in two days or three months or that very evening &#8211; the bad feelings came again? Would he feel guilty, or weak, or wrong because he couldn&#8217;t make the bad feelings disappear? Telling him about the constancy of change will, I think, make him feel less resposible for the bad, and ultimately more able to embrace the good (and deal with all those times and feelings which are both bad and good.)<br />
The truth that this too shall pass is ultimately what makes life not only liveable, but joyful. And that it something it is never too early too teach &#8211; in one form or another.</p>
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		<title>By: Isobel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isobel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 03:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have a friend who is about to leave this world and her two young children. It&#039;ll be any day now. We were there yesterday to help in whatever way we could. Heart-wrenching. There&#039;s really pretty much nothing positive I can say about the whole business. Nothing positive. There were a lot of incredibly sad juxtapositions that I suppose you could call paradoxes: tricycles next to oxygen tanks, the number for hospice tacked next to a flyer for Studio Grow. I know you and your family are all too familiar with this growth-and-life-in-the-midst-of-death business. Oh, boy, it&#039;s sad. I suppose just plain death in the midst of death is sadder, but thankfully I&#039;m not as familiar with that.

The City happened to plant a street tree on our parking strip on the day A&#039;s cousin died 5 and 1/2 years ago. We named the tree after her. I&#039;ve been thinking of planting a tree in our backyard this spring and I expect it might end up happening right around when our friend dies. This will ensure the juxtaposition continues for a long time to come. As I guess it always will.

Oh, sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a friend who is about to leave this world and her two young children. It&#8217;ll be any day now. We were there yesterday to help in whatever way we could. Heart-wrenching. There&#8217;s really pretty much nothing positive I can say about the whole business. Nothing positive. There were a lot of incredibly sad juxtapositions that I suppose you could call paradoxes: tricycles next to oxygen tanks, the number for hospice tacked next to a flyer for Studio Grow. I know you and your family are all too familiar with this growth-and-life-in-the-midst-of-death business. Oh, boy, it&#8217;s sad. I suppose just plain death in the midst of death is sadder, but thankfully I&#8217;m not as familiar with that.</p>
<p>The City happened to plant a street tree on our parking strip on the day A&#8217;s cousin died 5 and 1/2 years ago. We named the tree after her. I&#8217;ve been thinking of planting a tree in our backyard this spring and I expect it might end up happening right around when our friend dies. This will ensure the juxtaposition continues for a long time to come. As I guess it always will.</p>
<p>Oh, sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Vikki</title>
		<link>http://www.lesbiandad.net/2007/03/sandbox-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-6188</link>
		<dc:creator>Vikki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew there must be a reason you are the Know It All Brother In Law and it&#039;s pretty clear after this comment.

&quot;...every time I’ve come to know someone who has struggled since childhood with their demons, I find an experience where they weren’t physically safe, didn’t know parental love or were lied to.&quot; I don&#039;t think I have ever read such a brief, yet complete, explanation of life&#039;s scars. As I reflect on my own struggles...well...let&#039;s just say you saved me a load of therapy with your insight. Thank you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew there must be a reason you are the Know It All Brother In Law and it&#8217;s pretty clear after this comment.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;every time I’ve come to know someone who has struggled since childhood with their demons, I find an experience where they weren’t physically safe, didn’t know parental love or were lied to.&#8221; I don&#8217;t think I have ever read such a brief, yet complete, explanation of life&#8217;s scars. As I reflect on my own struggles&#8230;well&#8230;let&#8217;s just say you saved me a load of therapy with your insight. Thank you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: m2inVT</title>
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		<dc:creator>m2inVT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 12:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LD, soon I will become a parent (some time in the next six weeks, unbelieveable, really). I read your posts and look forward to each new posting. You are so eloquent, so insightful, so full of strength and love. I hope I will have the strength, I hope I will find the words, to give my little one such honesty in his life.  Thank you for sharing your beautiful words and heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LD, soon I will become a parent (some time in the next six weeks, unbelieveable, really). I read your posts and look forward to each new posting. You are so eloquent, so insightful, so full of strength and love. I hope I will have the strength, I hope I will find the words, to give my little one such honesty in his life.  Thank you for sharing your beautiful words and heart.</p>
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		<title>By: the KIABIL</title>
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		<dc:creator>the KIABIL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 21:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LD,  I know that you know the three essential nutrients of childhood are love, physical safety and truth. I know because I see your commitment to them for your kids and their cousins and their friends and on...  I know because I see your flashes of anger or action when one of those nutrients is compromised for a kid in your presence.

A lot of times a lot of us spend a lot of energy (and that&#039;s a lot of lots) worrying and fretting about our kids schools, their friends, their clothes, their toys.  In the end these things we fret about seem to have little lasting effect, as hard as that is to believe in the moment.

I have the good fortune of knowing a lot of people who are happy and successful in life, and I know a few who are lastingly unhappy and don&#039;t consider themselves successful. Through all my conversations with all kind of people I have never found a correlation between success and &#039;good schools&#039; or happiness and no TV as a kid.  And yet every time I&#039;ve come to know someone who has struggled since childhood with their demons, I find an experience where they weren&#039;t physically safe, didn&#039;t know parental love or were lied to.

I care about the schools my kids go to and I don&#039;t let them watch TV (well... not much). As I do this, I try not to fool myself that these are the critical pieces of parenthood. I can&#039;t imagine not letting them know how much they are loved any chance I get or ever letting them be physically threatened, those both come naturally to me. The hard part, and the part that I hope will give them the most lasting benefit is always telling them the truth.  Some times the truth is &quot;I&#039;m not ready to tell you about that yet&quot; but it&#039;s the truth.  I know that they&#039;ll know if I don&#039;t, and they&#039;ll pay.  I thank you for shining a light and leading the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LD,  I know that you know the three essential nutrients of childhood are love, physical safety and truth. I know because I see your commitment to them for your kids and their cousins and their friends and on&#8230;  I know because I see your flashes of anger or action when one of those nutrients is compromised for a kid in your presence.</p>
<p>A lot of times a lot of us spend a lot of energy (and that&#8217;s a lot of lots) worrying and fretting about our kids schools, their friends, their clothes, their toys.  In the end these things we fret about seem to have little lasting effect, as hard as that is to believe in the moment.</p>
<p>I have the good fortune of knowing a lot of people who are happy and successful in life, and I know a few who are lastingly unhappy and don&#8217;t consider themselves successful. Through all my conversations with all kind of people I have never found a correlation between success and &#8216;good schools&#8217; or happiness and no TV as a kid.  And yet every time I&#8217;ve come to know someone who has struggled since childhood with their demons, I find an experience where they weren&#8217;t physically safe, didn&#8217;t know parental love or were lied to.</p>
<p>I care about the schools my kids go to and I don&#8217;t let them watch TV (well&#8230; not much). As I do this, I try not to fool myself that these are the critical pieces of parenthood. I can&#8217;t imagine not letting them know how much they are loved any chance I get or ever letting them be physically threatened, those both come naturally to me. The hard part, and the part that I hope will give them the most lasting benefit is always telling them the truth.  Some times the truth is &#8220;I&#8217;m not ready to tell you about that yet&#8221; but it&#8217;s the truth.  I know that they&#8217;ll know if I don&#8217;t, and they&#8217;ll pay.  I thank you for shining a light and leading the way.</p>
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		<title>By: LesbianDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>LesbianDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;One of the amazing things about children is that they are almost always capable of handling the truth.&quot;  Yep.  I have to agree with you.  And when you say &quot;In reality, we wanted to protect ourselves from his pain,&quot; you touch on the crux of Adrienne Rich&#039;s legendary essay, &quot;Women and Honor: Some Notes On Lying.&quot;  (Anyone who hasn&#039;t read it ought to before nightfall, or the end of next week at the latest.  It&#039;s reprinted in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.powells.com/biblio/1-9780393312850-1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;On Lies, Secrets and Silence&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.powells.com/biblio/1-9780393323122-3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Arts of the Possible&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.)  

I tend to think a gentle honesty puts more wind in their sails for the long haul.  Even if it might feel, in the moment, like it knocks the wind out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One of the amazing things about children is that they are almost always capable of handling the truth.&#8221;  Yep.  I have to agree with you.  And when you say &#8220;In reality, we wanted to protect ourselves from his pain,&#8221; you touch on the crux of Adrienne Rich&#8217;s legendary essay, &#8220;Women and Honor: Some Notes On Lying.&#8221;  (Anyone who hasn&#8217;t read it ought to before nightfall, or the end of next week at the latest.  It&#8217;s reprinted in <a href="http://www.powells.com/biblio/1-9780393312850-1" rel="nofollow"><i>On Lies, Secrets and Silence</i></a> and <a href="http://www.powells.com/biblio/1-9780393323122-3" rel="nofollow"><i>Arts of the Possible</i></a>.)  </p>
<p>I tend to think a gentle honesty puts more wind in their sails for the long haul.  Even if it might feel, in the moment, like it knocks the wind out.</p>
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		<title>By: Vikki</title>
		<link>http://www.lesbiandad.net/2007/03/sandbox-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-5747</link>
		<dc:creator>Vikki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am typing this with tears in my eyes.You are right. The children in our lives do deserve a map that is true. This piece reminds me to be more mindful when I answer the questions that will provide guidance. One of the amazing things about children is that they are almost always capable of handling the truth.

My stepfather died last 4th of July...the same day my son celebrated his 5th birthday. Our initial reaction was to tell Miguel that his papa died on July 5th to protect him from the pain. In reality, we wanted to protect ourselves from his pain. We told him the truth. He cried, he felt horrible and he accepted it. I think we are all better for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am typing this with tears in my eyes.You are right. The children in our lives do deserve a map that is true. This piece reminds me to be more mindful when I answer the questions that will provide guidance. One of the amazing things about children is that they are almost always capable of handling the truth.</p>
<p>My stepfather died last 4th of July&#8230;the same day my son celebrated his 5th birthday. Our initial reaction was to tell Miguel that his papa died on July 5th to protect him from the pain. In reality, we wanted to protect ourselves from his pain. We told him the truth. He cried, he felt horrible and he accepted it. I think we are all better for it.</p>
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		<title>By: LesbianDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>LesbianDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, you should know there are three cats in the households that share access to the sandbox, and even more felines in the neighborhood.  Not that this should scare you off a perfectly workable strategy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, you should know there are three cats in the households that share access to the sandbox, and even more felines in the neighborhood.  Not that this should scare you off a perfectly workable strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: LookyDaddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>LookyDaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would bury myself in the sandbox, right next to the aforementioned kitty poo. That&#039;s how I deal with all such subjects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would bury myself in the sandbox, right next to the aforementioned kitty poo. That&#8217;s how I deal with all such subjects.</p>
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